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发信人: palio (芷水), 信区: English
标  题: Re: icecap:could tell me how to say'师姐'in engl...
发信站: 哈工大紫丁香 (2003年10月24日12:18:44 星期五), 站内信件


牛人！

发信人: Chaucer ( 远尘), 信区: 
EnglishWorld                                      
标  题: 英语里没有"师兄, 师姐"                                                 
  
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Thu Apr  3 17:19:51 1997)                             
   
                                                                              
   
Dear fellow students,                                                         
   
                                                                              
   
I figure that you must have attempted to                                      
   
find the correspondent words for '师兄'                                       
   
and '师姐' in English.                                                        
   
                                                                              
   
I had tried as well. Eventually, found                                        
   
no appropriate ones. So, I coined a                                           
   
'departmentmate' out of 'classmate'.                                          
   
                                                                              
   
Once in a while, I heard some others referred                                 
   
to them as 'study brother' and 'study sister'.                                
   
Undoubtedly, they are of Chinglish.                                           
   
                                                                              
   
I intentionally presented the issue to an American                            
   
pen-pal. Here goes her response:                                              
   
                                                                              
   
......                                                                        
   
"                                                                             
   
I'm afraid you may be asking for a word that doesn't exist.                   
   
However, one of the cousins I write to is the dean (person                    
   
in charge) of the business department of a college in Texas.                  
   
As this letter goes out to you a copy of your question will                   
   
go out to her.  She answers her mail promptly, so you will                    
   
probably get the answer soon.                                                 
   
......                                                                        
   
"                                                                             
   
                                                                              
   
It's her cousin's reply:                                                      
   
                                                                              
   
......                                                                        
   
You are correct that there really isn't such a word.                          
   
It requires a description, much as he has expressed.                          
   
Classmates, as I'm sure you explained, can mean that                          
   
they were literally in a class together, or were at                           
   
the same level (freshman, sophmore, etc) As fewer students                    
   
progress through college in a cohort group, starting                          
   
and ending together, it would not be inappropriate to                         
   
call anyone attending the institution with you a classmate.                   
   
                                                                              
   
I know of no creative way to describe students majoring                       
   
in the same discipline, except to say that...                                 
   
"We're both majoring in Business at the University of                         
   
Texas" or "we're both majoring in Business, but she is                        
   
studying at the University of California"                                     
   
                                                                              
   
Sorry I can't think of an appropriate word, but there                         
   
isn't one.                                                                    
   
                                                                              
   
.....                                                                         
   
                                                                              
   
End of quotation.                                                             
   
                                                                              
   
I suppose lack of such words is due to the utterly                            
   
different educational system they hold, which is                              
   
looser and considerably more volatile than ours.                              
   
Rarely can anyone study the same discipline without                           
   
changes there.                                                                
   
                                                                              
   
In a word, no need no existence.                                              
   
                                                                              
   
Nevertheless, we  will be using '师兄' and '师姐'                             
   
all the same 'cause we are in China.                                          
   
                                                                              
   
Therefore, you have got no choice but address them as                         
   
"students who share the same major as mine but are                            
   
senior/junior to me."                                                         
   
                                                                              
   
Regards,                                                                      
   
                                                                              
   
Chaucer                                                                       
   
                                                                              
   
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